King Korn Karnival renamed

Friday, Oct 02, 2009 - 04:59:08 pm CDT

The annual celebration known as the Kass Kounty King Korn Karnival has a new name:  The Plattsmouth Harvest Festival. 

The decision was made this past Wednesday, Sept. 30, at the monthly Korn Klub meeting following a presentation by the Karnival Future Ad Hoc Committee. 

After much discussion and input from both club members and community representatives, a motion was made to change the name of the celebration. 

The motion passed by a majority vote of voting members present.  In addition, a committee was appointed to review and update the existing by-laws of the corporation which will help the club sponsor, promote, manage, conduct and carry on the celebration for Plattsmouth and the surrounding communities.  The next meeting of the club is 7:30 p.m. Wednesday, Oct. 28, at Plattsmouth City Hall.  The public is invited to attend.

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larry
Oct 2, 2009 7:49 PM
I'm glad the powers that be finally realized that it was time for a change and had the guts to make that change. Congratulations to The Plattsmouth Harvest Festival and the Ad Hoc Committee. Well Done!
Tim
Oct 2, 2009 8:26 PM
I grew up with that carnival, I used to ride floats,be in parades,go on rides. I had alot of fun and them are some of my best memories of that town. It's a sad day when a bunch of idiots have to change tradition. So much for enjoying it anymore
billybob
Oct 2, 2009 8:27 PM
typical politicly correct crap.
Matt Masters
Oct 2, 2009 9:09 PM
From a corny sounding name to a plain terribly sounding name. What was wrong with simply taking out some K's and leaving it "The Cass County King Corn Carnival"?
resident
Oct 2, 2009 9:19 PM
Plattsmouth Harvest Festival?

so does this now exclude the county?
Jon
Oct 2, 2009 11:28 PM
Thank you to those who voted for this change!!! You have gotten rid of a huge embarassment to this community in the old name. Now lets focus on getting this event back to what it once was. If you are upset the name was changed well.....go Kry on some Kake because the rest of us dont really Kare!!
Robert
Oct 3, 2009 8:00 AM
Congratulations Plattsmouth Harvest Festival!
Bob
Oct 3, 2009 6:00 PM
Congratulations Plattsmouth! Welcome to the 21st century. I look forward to a great festival next fall.
John
Oct 3, 2009 11:18 PM
Why not the "Cass County Harvest Festival"? Way to alienate Murray, Union, Nehawka, Avoca, Weeping Water, Louisville, Cedar Creek, Murdock, etc. Totally dropped the ball.
mary
Oct 4, 2009 1:06 PM
yes, how 'bout using "cass county king corn carnival" all we wanted was a change of the "ks" in the title. with the new name it sort of excludes the whole county now and intimates that plattsmouth is the only entity involved. too bad.

oh well. guess they tried.
tammy matheson
Oct 4, 2009 6:01 PM
Please don't change your name! You share your name with My favorite band Korn and that's why I checked out your website in the first place! You sound very interesting and I'd love to visit!
john
Oct 5, 2009 1:00 AM
the change was not needed and should have been put to a vote of the town , not by a handfull of people
Walt
Oct 5, 2009 7:15 AM
It's a step in the right direction.
But you change the name and they still complain!
Life Long Resident
Oct 5, 2009 8:11 AM
Did the name need to be changed? Yes, but not so that it appears to exclude the rest of the county!! There is enough hard feelings between Plattsmouth and the rest of the county without this. Simply properly spelling the words without so many K's would have been just fine. I too grew up going to the parades and rides. I can only remember back to the 50s, but since I can remember, the Grand Parade was in the evening, not the afternoon. Plattsmouth looked like a ghost town for the afternoon parade Saturday. Just changing the name isn't what is needed. A lot of the old time residents of Plattsmouth and Cass County that I have talked to are not happy with the changes for parades and this radical name change is not going to help either.
mary
Oct 5, 2009 11:30 AM
oh i AM sorry. didn't mean to complain about the new name. only wishing the "cass county" was in the title. the change was needed and this is better than nothing.

by changing the formula around for events i think y'all shot yourselves in the foot for attendance. too many people work in the afternoon. and there were NOT 6000 people there. that is NOT true. you are living in la la land if you think we don't need outsiders to come to town and support this thing. i have heard the comment that they are NOT needed. sooooo wrong. the vendors need them, the carnival needs them as do the merchants. wow. that is what makes the event a "money event" and brings in business to the community.

name it whatever. i am just pleased the K-faction in G-O-N-E!!!!!!!!!!!
Unplugged
Oct 5, 2009 11:55 AM
Seriously? Really? The Plattsmouth Harvest Festival? What should have been done here and still could be done is: At least utilize the Plattsmouth Journal and the other county papers to take a vote on a list of names that could be considered as the new name for this celebration. But you people that made this decision are a bit closed minded and did not involve the community on this big decision. Like I said..this still could be done properly...
Walt
Oct 5, 2009 12:29 PM
Why just not change it back to the orignal name? Does any one know what it was?

The attendance will be an issue as times have changed and people are more mobile.

I think that the time changes would have been fine, the porblem may lie with the fact that to many were made at once this year.
Long Time Plattsmouth Citizen
Oct 5, 2009 12:34 PM
Now that you changed the name, does that mean that the selection of a King & Queen, including Lords & Ladies of the Realm, will no longer come from county, but will be Plattsmouth residents only? Probably so!!!
Concerned Community Member
Oct 5, 2009 12:38 PM
I have been disappointed in this racial "coincidence" since moving my family to Plattsmouth. We would never have attended as long as that was the name. We are happy to see the decision and will probably go from now on (call it political if you want, if you don't have a problem with kids running around saying they went to the "KKK festival" this weekend, you have a bigger problem than a name). I wouldn't, though, have minded the "Cass County Fall Festival" either!
Jayne
Oct 5, 2009 1:32 PM
Wow, who cares about the name,what is really important is how lame the carnival has gotten! If any of you were actually there, the tradition of parades is gone and the whole thing was a joke! The blues carnival rides is a laugh and the whole carnival was practically a ghost town!
LOL
Oct 5, 2009 2:17 PM
I really don't see what the problem was with "Cass County Corn Carnival." Why the big change? Why not just change the letters and be done?
lifer
Oct 5, 2009 4:28 PM
I am ashamed that the new name does not include the entire county, but I did not have a choice since the vote was not put to the people living here
me
Oct 5, 2009 7:30 PM
Well why not just have speeled it right and call it Cass County King Corn Carnival like Matt said. This has been going down hill for years, the same company every year same old junk to ride on. As I have heard they where make repairs and welding things back together. The cost and nothing else to do but ride the rides, same floats every year and whats with the food venders same people. We need new ride there get the people out of Okalhoma that do the County Fair. Anyway this town need to INCLUDE the rest of the county I don't see many corn rolls there in town hint hint!!!!! No horse's what these people can't be apart of this either becuase their horse might potty on the streets!!And it time to change the stage donwtown its the same ugly color every year whats with that I know corn is that color but come on. and 2 whole blocks of nothing more or less in a parade. And as I drove by this year there was not that many people down town like they said maybe 400 at the most not 3,000 or more. I say one more name change and let the COUNTY VOTE ON IT not just a handfull of people, like those who chased off Wal-Mart and other retale stores you know jobs,taxes.
county resident
Oct 5, 2009 8:27 PM
Thank the gods that the horrible name is changed! I know of many people who refused to support or attend the hideous Karnival in the past. I look forward to attending my first Harvest Festival next year! I know that people may feel slighted that Plattsmouth is in the name and not Cass County, buy maybe there are other circumstances that led to that decision. I know of several smaller towns in Nebraska that hold community festivals and can get grant money if the town's name is in the title. If you don't like the Plattsmouth Harvest Festival, just call it the Harvest Festival! I have been told for years that if I don't like King Korn Karnival I should just call it the Korn Karnival! At least now we are grammatically correct!!

Way to go committee! Thanks for changing the name from something quite embarrassing to something that sounds more local, more inclusive, and more honest.

Lets all go to the Harvest Festival next year!
Bill
Oct 5, 2009 10:34 PM
Trying to be "PC" and managed to botch that too. Not only have you managed to exclude the rest of the county you've given it a stupid sounding name. Harvest festival? I guess that shuts out the merchants as well as the rest of the county. Though using the letter "k" had nothing to do with racism I can see the point of maybe changing the letter. What's wrong with "Cass County King Corn Carnival" or Cass County Cing Corn Carnival". This just shows the caliber of leadership or rather lack of leadership we have today. This blunder is just one more nail in the coffin of what was once one of the best community celebrations in the state!
Terry
Oct 5, 2009 10:40 PM
I once dreamed of one day being the honorary "king". I'm afraid that after this poor showing of leadership and forward thinking I'd have to decline the honor. But then, as a "out county" resident I guess it would never be extended. Your ad hoc committee of left wing loonies may have just killed it.
Rich
Oct 5, 2009 10:41 PM
If Plattsmouth won't have you everyone is welcome in Neb City for Apple Jack days!
Ron
Oct 5, 2009 11:07 PM
"The motion passed by a majority vote of voting members present" What was the vote and who voted? I take by this wishy washy sentence that it wasn't unanimous and was contentious. I may not have been active before but that may have to change!
Michaela
Oct 6, 2009 10:28 AM
I feel like the new name is a step in the right direction, but it still could be changed to something that does not include the town name or the county name and thus not offending anyone. The organization that runs this event should disband and turn it over to someone else so we get a clean break with the past. The royality thing is the next part that needs to go, its still bothers me that we have an older man, young girl on stage.
Walt
Oct 6, 2009 11:55 AM
Everyone needs to get over the political correctness angle of this. It is a dead issue, the name has been changed.

Then you complained because the name makes it sound like it will excluded the rest of the county. Now you are whining that it will only be people from Plattsmouth. If you are concerened go to the meetings.

Whatever the Karnival/Festival name becomes it will not matter for the simple fact that no one will go to the meetings and there is no money left to run it. Unless people stop complaining and step up then this will be a thing of the past.

Speaking of only Plattsmouth people vs Cass County people, how come at the Cass County Fair there are no churches from Plattsmouth represented at the buildings that sell food. It works both ways.
msb
Oct 6, 2009 12:31 PM
Thank God! The K's had to go, it was unconscionable to spell the Cass County King Corn Carnival with K's. I'm sorry we will further antagonize the smaller communities in Cass County by excluding them but first and foremost the K's have to go.
Heidi
Oct 6, 2009 1:55 PM
It does seem better to call it a Plattsmouth name, as to me it seemed more like a Plattsmouth event all along, not a whole county event.
Promoter
Oct 6, 2009 6:54 PM
Before people critize what the committee has in mind for 2010, give them some time to develop a program. I bet they will come up with an exciting schedule with activities for the whole family. It could turn into one of the best ever. Let's give them our support.
Jenny
Oct 7, 2009 11:09 AM
OH BOO HOO to ALL of U! LOL
HS
Oct 7, 2009 12:28 PM
Should be the Cass County King Corn Carnival, why is that so hard?

Are these the same people who changed the Saturday parade to 2 pm? What an incredibly lame event it was this year.
Maybe it's time to get some new people to make decisions??
Patricia
Oct 7, 2009 2:21 PM
Quite a few towns in the county of Cass, so, CASS COUNTY HARVEST FESTIVAL would have filled the bill.

Questions for the Historical Society

What was the original name for the Annual Festival????? (hope to see the answer in the next issue of the Plattsmouth Journal. Right??????
Brian
Oct 7, 2009 8:13 PM
i grew up in plattmouth and looked foward to the carnavil every year. I was back in town for this years and was greatly disappointed. I hope that someone will step up and bring back the good old carnival of the late 90's
Mandy B
Oct 8, 2009 8:46 AM
I can't believe that the carnival was renamed! This is and was a county wide festival now what? Why do we need a name change to something that has brought this county together for generations. It seems like this is a diversion to avoid the main issue the carnival has been facing for several years now. Let's try to reenergize this carnival to the days of old instead of continuing to let it slide to new lows!!
Don
Oct 8, 2009 12:21 PM
I love to read the outpouring of emotion concerning the Karnival. I did not agree with moving the Koronation or the parade but the officers wanted to try something new. The ad hoc committee has recommended moving both events back to their original times and locations. To all those complaining, how many of you have gotten involved by giving time and money to help the Korn Klub? As far the county goes, every town in Cass County has their own festival, limestone days, quack off, testicle festival, Murray July 4, etc. How many people from outside Plattsmouth and rural Plattsmouth do you think attend the Karnival? And as far as the name change concering the Ks it is impossible to convey to new citizens and businesses that there was never a sinister intent. I will bet alot of you also believe President Bush was behind 911 and Obama is a foreigner.To many people,perception is reality. What would you rather have, a festival that lives on or gradually dies because of its initials???
HS
Oct 8, 2009 4:02 PM
Don...I agree with some of what you said, except the idea that the entire name had to be changed. Replacing K's with C's would have been a common sense way to keep tradition alive while steering clear of the offensive. I agree that the K's could be construed as racism...and that's the last message any town should be sending.

And for the record, I'm not a conspiracy theorist...just a P-town kid who hates to see the tradition die...as it most certainly has (especially this past year). The ghost town that was Main Street on Saturday night was downright depressing. And I am an "out of towner" now who does travel down for the festivities each year.

Return the parade(s) to their original times and call it the Cass County King Corn Carnival for cripes sakes!
NTC
Oct 8, 2009 5:10 PM
It's about time the name was changed, if for no other reason than to show our children that we know how to spell :)

Kind of hypocritical that certain people, while defending the name of the the "KKK festival" on the premise that it is based on historic tradition, in the same breath, criticize Town Hall meetings in favor of conducting votes online instead? So because democracy has failed in their eyes...
Curious
Oct 8, 2009 5:52 PM
Don,

That commentary at the end was insulting and unnecessary. I can make a guess, too, and say that you are involved with the committee. Judging by your disconnect with everyone else in this thread you must be one of the ringleaders.

Its pretty apparent people responding to this article would like to see pretty much the same fixes:

1. The name stay associated with "Cass County"
2. Keeping the former name without the ignorant use of extra K's
3. The parade to run on Saturday night at 6:30 or 7pm like in previous years
4. The coronation to be on Main Street again
5. The elected King to not be geriatric
6. A honest look into using a different provider of the amusement rides
7. There to be a beer garden

None of these are asking too much.
jim
Oct 9, 2009 8:49 AM
I think we should elect "me" to come up with a name since he is so good at "speeling." His incoherent rambling anaylsis is typical, showing the troglodyte mentality of the community.
To Terry, what makes you think that you would be King one day? Are you delusional?
NTC
Oct 9, 2009 11:59 AM
I agree with "Curious" above. The fact most of us agree that the K's should be changed to C's should not be construed as a blank check to change everything up. Lets keep emotions to a minimum and only make changes where they are beneficial. Go P-town!
Don
Oct 9, 2009 12:24 PM
In reponse to Curious, just changing the initials would not solve the racism misconception. The phrase "Cass County King Corn Carnival" is still PHONETICALLY a series of K's. Instead of just being accused of being racist we could have been accused of being CLEVER racists. A clean(Klean?) break was needed. In addition the Korn Klub is not a democracy or even a constitutional republic! Only people who contribute and participate and have been selected as lords and ladies get to vote on Festival matters.

And finally, let's ask your cohorts:
Was Bush behind 911? Is Obama foreign born? You tell me.
Curious
Oct 10, 2009 1:58 AM
Don-

Please stop with the fallacy arguments. You linking the phonetics of the name with the Klu Klux Klan is a bogus cause-of-effect argument. And the whole 9-11/Obama linkage to people that oppose the "fall festival" name is hasty generalization and at the same time a strawman claim. This behavior is really unbecoming of an adult.

The whole concept of a "korn klub" run by lords and ladies bemoans itself to social disconnect. If these anointed ones are the only ones that matter then it pretty much explains the problem; all the public input in the world wouldn't matter because the disconnected/elitist lords and ladies will do whatever they feel is best anyhow.

Here's a better strawman argument for you, Don: Asking for public input while at the same time ignoring it is the modus operandi of Plattsmouth's baby boomer generation. *zing!*
Don
Oct 10, 2009 12:25 PM
Yes Curious, that is precisely why I live in Plattsmouth, to be surrounded by fellow elitists. You gave your own prejudices away when you generalized about the baby boomer generation. How sad to always be so jealous of we boomers. I would love to hear you state your case at the monthly meeting.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance, but I see you still have a ways to go. Do you really care about the event or are you just another example of small town negativity? It is so easy to criticize but not work to improve something. Get well soon!
steve
Oct 12, 2009 8:55 PM
Don- you are rediculous and a bit pretentious.

I believe that new ideas and events will prove to be the lifeblood of this event. I know a number of people who were excited about the Pro Wrestling on Main Street that fell through like most everything else.

Why not liven things up a bit for next year. Line up good local bands to perform Friday or Saturday night and maybe a Mixed Martial Arts event, since it is sanctioned by the state of Nebraska and growing immensely in popularity.
Curious
Oct 13, 2009 1:25 AM
Funny, Don, the negativism is coming from you. You callously transmitted your own distastes for the ideas of others and then predictably label them as negative. There is a term that describes that behavior, it's called "projection". You should give your lectures in the mirror because that audience needs it.

Thanks for confirming the notion that the people involved with the planning really do not want the public input after all.
Lisa
Oct 16, 2009 9:33 PM
My parents were from Plattsmouth and I grew up hearing about the Kass Kounty King Korn Karnival. Why mess with tradition? This event was something we always looked forward to and I feel there is no reason to change the name or
the events involved. It is really sad that a tradition such as this had to be changed.
becky breedon
Oct 25, 2009 1:19 PM
you know i grew up in plattsmouth and i hav alway going down to the kkkkk how dare you cange it this town is build to triditions i now live in canada but i always find time to go to the kkkkk this years kkkkk was a big dissappoint to the fullest i all ways spend cloce to a thousand dollars next yeer me and my family will go elsewhere how dare any one change triditions